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Post by JAFisher44 on Sept 25, 2016 14:22:16 GMT -7
Well, I needed a break from the Andor again so I decided to throw this together. It's the Pioneer Class Utility Cruiser from STO. I still need to do some detail work on it.   |
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Post by thescreamingswede on Sept 25, 2016 15:09:33 GMT -7
Sweet. I've been thinking of scratch building a miniature for this design. I like it's simple look and clean lines. The drawing is looking great so far.
Keep up the good work.
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Post by atolm on Oct 22, 2016 0:40:22 GMT -7
Slick!
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Post by JAFisher44 on Sept 22, 2018 0:30:44 GMT -7
Updated.   |
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Post by tinker on Sept 22, 2018 8:05:30 GMT -7
That is an odd looking ship, but your model is shaping up nicely!
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Post by SITZKRIEG! on Sept 22, 2018 19:26:38 GMT -7
Awesome and thanks! Don't forget to let us know when you update the sketchup warehouse file to this version and also if you're taking further requests.  I've love to see a finished version of the Atlas Dreadnought from STO done in your style as well. |
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Post by JAFisher44 on Sept 22, 2018 22:19:16 GMT -7
Ugh... The Atlas Dreadnought is so ugly. I'll most likely never model that. The Pioneer is the only TOS ship I can stand from STO.
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Post by kaisernathan1701 on Sept 22, 2018 23:36:58 GMT -7
Atlas looks like a smaller redesign of the one from Legacy |
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Post by trynda1701 on Sept 23, 2018 7:23:49 GMT -7
Atlas looks like a smaller redesign of the one from Legacy It does, doesn't it. Nice render as always, JAFisher44.  I agree it's an odd design. Personally, I'd move the lower pod back at least so it's front edge is where the rear edge is now. Would give it a more balanced look like the Constitution class. |
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Post by SITZKRIEG! on Sept 23, 2018 9:09:21 GMT -7
Ugh... The Atlas Dreadnought is so ugly. I'll most likely never model that. The Pioneer is the only TOS ship I can stand from STO. It was worth a shot! I've found the 3d model (in parts) on thingiverse but I don't have the skills to color/texture it myself. |
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Post by SITZKRIEG! on Sept 23, 2018 9:09:55 GMT -7
Atlas looks like a smaller redesign of the one from Legacy It does, doesn't it. Nice render as always, JAFisher44 . I agree it's an odd design. Personally, I'd move the lower pod back at least so it's front edge is where the rear edge is now. Would give it a more balanced look like the Constitution class.
What ship are you referring to in Legacy? I never played it.
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Post by trynda1701 on Sept 23, 2018 12:26:53 GMT -7
It does, doesn't it. Nice render as always, JAFisher44 . I agree it's an odd design. Personally, I'd move the lower pod back at least so it's front edge is where the rear edge is now. Would give it a more balanced look like the Constitution class. What ship are you referring to in Legacy? I never played it.
In Legacy, it's called a Proxima Class Battlecruiser. It has four nacelles, as well as TWO engineering hulls. |
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Post by SITZKRIEG! on Sept 23, 2018 21:36:06 GMT -7
Ah, I've seen pics of it in the past but wasn't sure what it was. I'm not particularly a fan of the two secondary hulls myself (didn't like it in Axanar and JJtrek either) on a starship but the variety is appreciated.
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Post by cowboy40 on Nov 9, 2018 0:43:26 GMT -7
Where did you find this cruiser at, I think this is one that I haven't seen
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Post by JAFisher44 on Nov 9, 2018 7:44:27 GMT -7
It is from Star Trek Online.
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Post by cowboy40 on Nov 9, 2018 11:59:55 GMT -7
Aw, that's why, I don't follow that joke!
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Post by JAFisher44 on Oct 12, 2021 7:44:06 GMT -7
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Post by atolm on Oct 12, 2021 16:28:21 GMT -7
That is one cool ship!
In a lot of ways the NX should have been something like this.
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Post by JAFisher44 on Oct 12, 2021 16:55:19 GMT -7
I personally like that the NX is stylistically distinct from TOS era ships. Some people complain that the NX looks more "advanced" than the TOS Enterprise, but by what standard does one claim that? Part of the intentional design of the TOS Enterprise was that she was supposed to have a pretty much seamless surface with very little machinery visible on the exterior of the ship. It would take quite a bit of technological know how to wrap a ship in a seamless skin, or to have hatches, etc that close so perfectly that you can't see the edge when it's closed.
The stylistic decisions, what the ship looks like, is entirely subject to the stylistic sensibilities of the people who build her. Those sensibilities change over time. When I was a kid in the '80s "old" cars were all rounded off. "New" cars had hard square corners. Now a blockish car looks old and a rounded look is back in vogue. When your technology is sufficiently advanced the look of your ship is going to be less dependent on function and more open to artistic expression.
Interiors, on the other hand, are entirely a product of the time the show was made. I don't mind interior retcons at all, and, in fact, think that probably most interface technologies shown are not going to age well.
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Post by atolm on Oct 14, 2021 12:18:51 GMT -7
I personally like that the NX is stylistically distinct from TOS era ships. Some people complain that the NX looks more "advanced" than the TOS Enterprise, but by what standard does one claim that? Part of the intentional design of the TOS Enterprise was that she was supposed to have a pretty much seamless surface with very little machinery visible on the exterior of the ship. It would take quite a bit of technological know how to wrap a ship in a seamless skin, or to have hatches, etc that close so perfectly that you can't see the edge when it's closed. The stylistic decisions, what the ship looks like, is entirely subject to the stylistic sensibilities of the people who build her. Those sensibilities change over time. When I was a kid in the '80s "old" cars were all rounded off. "New" cars had hard square corners. Now a blockish car looks old and a rounded look is back in vogue. When your technology is sufficiently advanced the look of your ship is going to be less dependent on function and more open to artistic expression. Interiors, on the other hand, are entirely a product of the time the show was made. I don't mind interior retcons at all, and, in fact, think that probably most interface technologies shown are not going to age well. You are correct and I agree...I was referring to the ship's configuration...my apologies as I did not make that clear. |
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Post by cowboy40 on Oct 15, 2021 11:00:57 GMT -7
I personally like that the NX is stylistically distinct from TOS era ships. Some people complain that the NX looks more "advanced" than the TOS Enterprise, but by what standard does one claim that? Part of the intentional design of the TOS Enterprise was that she was supposed to have a pretty much seamless surface with very little machinery visible on the exterior of the ship. It would take quite a bit of technological know how to wrap a ship in a seamless skin, or to have hatches, etc that close so perfectly that you can't see the edge when it's closed. The stylistic decisions, what the ship looks like, is entirely subject to the stylistic sensibilities of the people who build her. Those sensibilities change over time. When I was a kid in the '80s "old" cars were all rounded off. "New" cars had hard square corners. Now a blockish car looks old and a rounded look is back in vogue. When your technology is sufficiently advanced the look of your ship is going to be less dependent on function and more open to artistic expression. Interiors, on the other hand, are entirely a product of the time the show was made. I don't mind interior retcons at all, and, in fact, think that probably most interface technologies shown are not going to age well. Thumbs up here...I agree with this statement...I have never thought that the NX looked more modern then a Connie...NX looks like she would shake apart to me...the Connie is built to closer tolerance in her hull and systems...that is what i see... |
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Post by cowboy40 on Oct 15, 2021 11:02:56 GMT -7
Now i have seen some stats for the Pioneer class and have played those stats...I don't like this ship...lol...but the work here is great. I just don't see the need of this ship...what does she do...The Anton and Connie do the research in this time frame in the FASAverse...Anton proved a good fighting ship in the FYW...where does these thing fit into the FASAverse?
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Post by JAFisher44 on Oct 15, 2021 12:33:29 GMT -7
What stats did you find for the pioneer? The fluff for this class from STO indicates that she is intended to fill a similar role to the Constitution Class but isn't capable of extended missions. Given her intended mission profile I'd probably stat her as a poor man's Connie. Slightly less capable but still adequate to fill in the gaps.
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Post by JAFisher44 on Oct 15, 2021 13:26:13 GMT -7
| Pioneer Class Utility Cruiser | Mk I | Mk II | | | | | Date Entering Service | 2256 | 2261 | | Number Constructed | 18 | 23 | | Ship Class | IX | IX | | | | | Superstructure | 18 | 19 | | | | | Computer Type | M-3 | M-3 | | Crew | 295 | 305 | | | | | Total Power | 40 | 44 | | Movement Ratio | 3/1 | 3/1 | | Engine Type | FWD-2 | FWD-2 | | Number | 2 | 2 | | Power Units | 18 ea. | 18 ea. | | Stress Charts | M/G | M/G | | Cruising Speed | 5 | 5 | | Max Speed | 7 | 7 | | | | | Impulse Engine Type | FID-2 | FIE-2 | | Number | 1 | 1 | | Power Units | 4 | 8 | | | | | Beam Weapon Type | FH-3 | FH-3 | | Number | 4 | 4 | | Firing Arcs | 2f/p, 2f/s | 2f/p,2 f/s | | Firing Chart | W | W | | Max Power | 5 | 5 | | Damage Modifiers | | | | +3 | (1-10) | (1-10) | | +2 | (11-17) | (11-17) | | +1 | (18-20) | (18-20) | | | | | Missile Weapon Type | FP-1 | FP-1 | | Number | 2 | 2 | | Firing Arcs | 2f | 2f | | Firing Chart | L | L | | Power to Arm | 1 | 1 | | Damage | 10 | 10 | | | | | Shields | FSK | FSL | | Shield Point Ratio | 1/2 | 1/3 | | Max Shields | 16 | 16 |
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I've love to see a finished version of the Atlas Dreadnought from STO done in your style as well.
