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Post by trynda1701 on Oct 6, 2020 8:19:43 GMT -7
Plus he did the photo-op of removing his mask on the WHite House balcony after he flew back there (and let's be honest, that's what it was). I don't normally get political on here, but he has to be voted out in November. He is a danger to one and all in America. |
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Post by starcruiser on Oct 6, 2020 11:20:56 GMT -7
Oh yes - and Captain Bonespur keeps "saluting" - as if he ever served...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2020 10:46:30 GMT -7
Yeah... the Trump Biden debate was like watching "Dumb and Dumber". HOWEVER... the virus which must not be named is most contagious tow or three days BEFORE displaying symptoms. Once you have symptoms, you are much less likely to spread "it". So if it were flu, yeah... the drive by would be stupid, with "it", it is less stupid, but optically dumb-astic. Anyway, there are a lot if science guys saying this whole lock down thing is a bad idea. Even the World Health Organization has seen the light. The lock downs seem to have the effect of making the poor even poorer. The W.H.O. representative stated that due to the lock-downs, it is likely that millions more will be in poverty in 2021.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 7:43:28 GMT -7
I can't begrudge his mask less photo-op, he was all by himself. It's the not putting it back on. Less contagious isn't non-contagious.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 16:40:48 GMT -7
I agree. He should have worn a mask to thank his supporters.
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Post by trynda1701 on Nov 24, 2020 18:15:48 GMT -7
To all forum members, I hope you are all well. And to our American members, please be safe and take extra care during Thanksgiving.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 13:12:22 GMT -7
Thank-you trynda1701. Here's hoping everyone stays safe and healthy, and manages to keep their sanity through this rather troubling year. |
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Post by rabid on Jan 10, 2021 0:34:16 GMT -7
No one listens to science even though they say to anti-maskers that they aren't following science.
I can only say this sort of thing on this forum...at work it would get me into trouble.
Those who work in hospitals see tbe very worst of COVID all the time. I don't try to minimize their experience, but like I have been saying from the get go, this virus has never been as contagious as they claim.
That said I wear a mask because like anyone else I don't want people to die needlessly especially now that there is a vaccine. Star Trek 5 and dr McCoy comes to mind.
But if you want to look at case fatality, the news calculates it all wrong. They always take the number of deaths divided by positives which means it's anywhere from 2-3% fatal.
But the number of people who get it and do not become symptomatic is at least 50% higher than the total positives.
The news and anti-maskers are BOtH Utter morons who don't understand science. Also the chances of *asymptomatic* spreading have always been close to zero. Same here as it is with flu.
People who are sick should wear a mask or better yet, stay home.
Anyway if I say that at work people think I am crazy even though the evidence bears me out.
Anyway I hope everyone is safe. Crazy times we live in.
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Post by rabid on Jan 24, 2021 8:02:10 GMT -7
So I actually caught COVID!
The group that relieved us had a rash of it in their headquarters. I was staying out of the office but had to finish some stuff. Anyway long story short I was carefully avoiding them so I wouldn't get it on my way home. But their bone-head commander comes down to the theater gateway to "say goodbye" even though he had symptoms.
I got exposed to a symptomatic spreader, no surprise there.
What is it like? The headache was like a caffeine withdrawal, then I knew something was wrong when I got that first homecoming hamburger and even though it was bacon and sautéed onions, it didn't taste like anything. I was wrecked.
The muscle aches and pains were severe and I felt weak (still do). All in all it lasted 4 days but I am in quarantine and the rest of my soldiers went home yesterday.
I can see how it would kill someone older. It was the worst muscle pains I have felt since after I was in a motorcycle crash. Other than that, it came and went within 72 hours. I never developed a cough or GI signs. Can't underestimate the muscle pains though. That was the worst part.
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Post by starcruiser on Jan 24, 2021 10:15:30 GMT -7
When opportunity permits - get a thorough checkup. There's definitely a chance of damage to the heart and other vital organs even if you were asymptomatic (and you weren't).
I know, I'm preaching to the choir but still...
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Post by trynda1701 on Feb 4, 2021 17:34:04 GMT -7
So I actually caught COVID! The group that relieved us had a rash of it in their headquarters. I was staying out of the office but had to finish some stuff. Anyway long story short I was carefully avoiding them so I wouldn't get it on my way home. But their bone-head commander comes down to the theater gateway to "say goodbye" even though he had symptoms. I got exposed to a symptomatic spreader, no surprise there. What is it like? The headache was like a caffeine withdrawal, then I knew something was wrong when I got that first homecoming hamburger and even though it was bacon and sautéed onions, it didn't taste like anything. I was wrecked. The muscle aches and pains were severe and I felt weak (still do). All in all it lasted 4 days but I am in quarantine and the rest of my soldiers went home yesterday. I can see how it would kill someone older. It was the worst muscle pains I have felt since after I was in a motorcycle crash. Other than that, it came and went within 72 hours. I never developed a cough or GI signs. Can't underestimate the muscle pains though. That was the worst part. Hells bells! I've been in a bit of a total funk since Christmas, and completely missed this! How are you doing now? Please tell me you are on the mend, and your family is safe. |
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Post by rabid on Feb 10, 2021 1:22:05 GMT -7
thanks man I am doing good, glad to be home at last. The myalgia was the worst part of it, I went from pushing 250 to can't do 5 push-ups without seeing stars.
I can see how it is devastating to some folks. Lucky for me I have a strong constitutioen.
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Post by trynda1701 on Feb 11, 2021 16:13:24 GMT -7
Good to hear from you, rabid. Get well soon, and continue to take care. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 16:44:11 GMT -7
Well... I got shot 1 of 2 today. The line was nice and long, so plenty of people are getting their ounce of prevention.
I felt a bit odd afterwards. Light headed, tired, bit of a headache. It also changed my behavior a bit - i was a bit goofier than normal. Six hour later and I'm basically back to what passes for normal.
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Post by starcruiser on Mar 31, 2021 17:43:30 GMT -7
^ Normal being a relative term for people like us...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 8:49:09 GMT -7
SO... Looking at my previous post... I was not back to normal yet.
I'm about 95% today. Not feeling tired, but some minor joint pain (just my shoulders). The wonderful thing I am encountering now is that half the people I meet at work are annoyed that I got the shot. But the line (at work) was about 50 meters long, and stayed that way all afternoon (until an hour after end of shift), so I must just be bumping into the yahoos today.
> Yes, I got my shot at work. I work at a defense contractor and, like grocery clerks and plumbers, I have to go to work so they provide shots for us (not FREE... that would be nuts).
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Post by JAFisher44 on Apr 1, 2021 21:06:22 GMT -7
I just got a text today from the Washington State Phase Finder letting me know I am now eligible for my vaccine. I'll be getting it as soon as I can.
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Post by Gorn on Apr 3, 2021 15:42:47 GMT -7
Meanwhile, here in Canada we get to be guinea pigs with 3-4 months between shots. At least mine and my wife's parents have gotten their first shots. I don't have a problem working from home if it protects my internal organs and especially my brain - I'd hate to get brain fog and become like the people I have disdain for.
I had to shut down my dojo and only teach last summer in the park with students 3m away from each other. Needless to say, very few showed up for training. I'm looking at the same thing this summer, until next year I expect. Don't know if my dojo will be worth reopening; people give less and less value to studying martial arts.
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Post by rabid on Aug 15, 2021 5:38:15 GMT -7
it's weird being home since now I have no involvement in the pandemic. We were running covid 19 biofire and contact tracing for over 20,000 people, now nothing. Given that we could probably discuss philosophy and science now without a lot of drama, I'd like to talk about the ethics of vaccine mandates. A while back on this forum I referenced the "philosophy of moral hazard" wherein it can sometimes be moral to do something that seems immoral under other circumstances. For example, should vaccinated health care workers be made to care for the unvaccinated? Do hospitals have an obligation to retain or fire non-vaccinated health care providers? If they do, who takes care of everyone? For consideration from the Hastings Center: www.thehastingscenter.org/vaccine-mandates-for-health-care-workers-raise-several-ethical-dilemmas/I 'grew up' in a very different medical community with a traditional sense of morality in medical ethics. I'm a veterinarian, no longer a researcher and moved to private practice, so these ethical dilemmas don't apply to me. Believe me I face ethical dilemmas in practice but most of these are imposed by pet owners. (*sigh*) But the dictum of "Do no harm" has changed quite a bit since the advent of assisted death (euthanasia). I left 'human' medicine because of this, interestingly the need to euthanize animals doesn't present the same problem. It does give me insight into how much medical malfeasance can be masked with a compassionate stance on euthanasia though. I hope to hell human medicine never gets there but on the other hand it seems inevitable. I bring that up because no one (Talking about the FDA) is really held accountable for COVID deaths, after all it's a virus. But if someone should die of a vaccine reaction, then the FDA would get blamed. It's the difference between "killing" and simply "allowing to die". This explains the FDA's reluctance and delays in approving vaccines for children. Opponents say they would be responsible for anyone who dies if they failed to recommend it. Not sure about that...Is failing to act tantamount to murder? www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15265161.2016.1180441?journalCode=uajb20 (moral hazard in pediatrics) This is an article about the moral hazard: www.thehastingscenter.org/the-f-d-a-and-the-moral-distinction-between-killing-and-letting-die/It also makes me sad that we don't have a robust Star Trek to present these topics. It's almost criminal how much material the new series leaves on the ground. |
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Post by starcruiser on Aug 15, 2021 8:48:36 GMT -7
Failing to act "reasonably" is tantamount to murder. It's basically manslaughter or malpractice - in effect.
Both TOS and TNG went into these sort of issues to some extent way back but, yeah, the new shows prefer "Wokism" and various pointless misdirected concepts to actually doing anything useful. SciFi has always been a fertile ground to plant new ideas and also, a great way to bring ethical and moral issues to light.
The only problem is, any such intelligent SciFi won't attract enough of the general public for the suits in charge...
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Post by trynda1701 on Aug 16, 2021 6:28:53 GMT -7
rabidHow are doing yourself healthwise, hope you and your family are well? To all in the US, how are things restrictions wise and vaccination takeup wise in your various states? Same question to forum members in other countries. Here in the UK, I've had both jags, and all adults in the immediate family are also now double jagged. The 12 weeks between jags has been reduced down to 8 weeks, this happened specifically for my stepson. The UK had quite a spike in July of the Delta Variant, but it was brief, thankfully, although still present! Most restrictions are now gone, but masks are still recommended, and actually still mandated for shops and public transport (unless medically exempt) in Scotland for the foreseeable future per First Minister Sturgeon. The end of this year is possible. Which personally I planned to do. Still carry hand sanitiser with me, even with most shops still having them available at the door.
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Post by rabid on Aug 29, 2021 11:54:41 GMT -7
I'm good, I really don't want to get vaccinated but I am going to talk to my dr.
After having Covid antibodies, it doesn't seem wise to force my body to spit out antigen.
Unfortunately if the dr clears me I don't have a choice .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2021 15:55:49 GMT -7
I'm good, I really don't want to get vaccinated but I am going to talk to my dr. After having Covid antibiotics it doesn't seem wise to force my body to spit out antigen. Unfortunately if the dr clears me I don't have a choice . Your body, your choice, right? |
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Post by rabid on Sept 5, 2021 6:08:43 GMT -7
No it's military, but so far they did a "WARNO" and gave me a voucher, but they didn't actually issue the order yet.
It's a catch-22. The Pfizer vaccine is "FDA approved" but only for provisional emergency use. If I suffer a side effect without a vaccine mandate, I probably wouldn't get disability. Good thing I have a federal disability judge in my family, he was a veteran JAG officer too. He says wait until they publish the mandate.
Strange times we live in. I'm not a conspiracy theorist but I know the DOD likes to save money. They want to coax people to get vaccinated on their own time.
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Post by trynda1701 on Nov 19, 2021 11:18:06 GMT -7
I hope everyone on the forum, and their family and friends, are well and hearty. Stay safe everyone.
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