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Post by brickwall on Oct 19, 2019 19:58:32 GMT -7
Fellow FASA Trekkers, here's a topic for you all to ponder -- that is if it is worth pondering.
The Organians used their incredible abilities to stop the Feds and Klingons from fighting their Second War. Both Star Fleet and the Imperial Fleet were zapped dead in their tracks wherever they were. Check the near-end of the episode "Errand Of Mercy" to back this up.
In the episode "Arena", the race called the Metrons stopped both the Enterprise and the Gorn ship in their chase. When Kirk refused to kill the Gorn captain and the Metrons put them both back on their respective ships, they sent the Enterprise 500 parsecs away from Cestus III on the Fed-Gorn border.
Meaning the Metrons had the probable ability to do to both sides what the Organians did to both Feds and Klingons.
So from what evidence one could gain from these two episodes, could the Metrons be a similar race to the Organians? That is, a race of sentient energy beings of immense powers?
If so, would they have had contact with the Organians who may be similar to them? And faced a similar situation as they did with Kirk and the Gorn captain?
In light of these similarities, would they work together to keep things getting out of hand with their "embodied" neighbors? As in co-operating "behind the scenes" to keep them in line without making things worse?
Your opinions and insights are needed and always welcome. Thank you all in advance.  |
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Post by starcruiser on Oct 19, 2019 21:30:47 GMT -7
Per this (very old - and still not finished) fan story: A Thin Veneer The Organians and Metrons (among others) are "First Ones" just like the Vorlons and Shadows in B5. So, yes, the Metrons are probably similar to the Organians. |
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Post by tosfan1956 on Oct 21, 2019 19:59:21 GMT -7
My guess would be little or no contact between the two races. The Organians seemed to be “home bodies” if you will. Not venturing out into space other than with their minds. The Metrons too, monitored but seemed unwilling to get off planet. Perhaps they did all their space exploration back when they had physical bodies. Or maybe they just skipped that part, concentrating on developing their minds and transforming their bodies. Either way, they seemed to have backed out of the picture quick enough as neither was seen or heard from again and there was plenty of combat between the Feds and the Klingons after that, including the war that altered time when NCC1701-C passed thru that time warp (Don’t remember episode name! Sucks getting old)
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Post by brickwall on May 25, 2020 14:55:05 GMT -7
My guess would be little or no contact between the two races. The Organians seemed to be “home bodies” if you will. Not venturing out into space other than with their minds. The Metrons too, monitored but seemed unwilling to get off planet. Perhaps they did all their space exploration back when they had physical bodies. Or maybe they just skipped that part, concentrating on developing their minds and transforming their bodies. Either way, they seemed to have backed out of the picture quick enough as neither was seen or heard from again and there was plenty of combat between the Feds and the Klingons after that, including the war that altered time when NCC1701-C passed thru that time warp (Don’t remember episode name! Sucks getting old) If that's the case, then -- yes, here I go again -- the Kephans could have an opportunity to get them to meet up and share things. Well, maybe ideas and concepts, since they are incorporeal.  One never knows with them, right? |
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Post by rabid on May 30, 2020 21:10:14 GMT -7
The organisms and metrons both appeared to find corporeal entities tedious and tiresome.
But I would argue that the organians are the true pacifists. They wanted people to stop fighting, certainly not in their back yard. It's funny if I remember right, even Kirk found himself annoyed at them for stopping the war.
The metrons not so much. Their approach was to let the combatants finish the fight. That's hardly pacifism, even though they did it to teach them a lesson.
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Post by brickwall on Jun 6, 2020 14:24:21 GMT -7
The Organians and Metrons both appeared to find corporeal entities tedious and tiresome. But I would argue that the Organians are the true pacifists. They wanted people to stop fighting, certainly not in their back yard. It's funny if I remember right, even Kirk found himself annoyed at them for stopping the war. The Metrons not so much. Their approach was to let the combatants finish the fight. That's hardly pacifism, even though they did it to teach them a lesson. I also remember Kor agreed, adding: "It's a shame. It would have been glorious."
And this has solidified a decision in my screwed-up head. The Kephans will bring together the Organians and Metrons in a back-up future episode in any RPG they're featured in. Throw in the Thasians from the TOS episode "Charlie X" as well. Perhaps even the Cytherians from the Galactic Core portrayed in TNG.
Perhaps form their own grouping called the "League of Incorporeal Peoples" or LIP. Have the Feds, Klingons, Gorns and Kephans be given non-voting "observer status" at the League's meetings like -- for example -- the Vatican has non-voting "observer status" in the U.N.'s General Assembly.
Do you think this may sail or sink in your opinions? Insights welcome.
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Post by rabid on Jun 6, 2020 21:31:09 GMT -7
League of incorporeal persons? Lol love it.
I can see it now...
Where do I go to sign up? Wait you mean I'm already there? Well this sucks where is the exit...what do you mean "nowhere"?
I'm just gonna grab my hat and *hat falls to the floor* DAMMIT!
Hey, get this metron out of my personal space!
10,000 metrons and organians show up to protest for LIP rights. No one notices.
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Post by trynda1701 on Jun 7, 2020 10:42:28 GMT -7
Personally, I wouldn't go down the route of having a incorporeal alliance, more it's "there's quite a few of them, but they are mysterious, and only occasionally walk amongst us mere mortals |
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Post by steven on Jun 14, 2020 10:21:27 GMT -7
Personally, I wouldn't go down the route of having a incorporeal alliance, more it's "there's quite a few of them, but they are mysterious, and only occasionally walk amongst us mere mortals I would agree with this. One of the traps that the writers of a lot of franchises fall into is everything and everyone is interconnected and keep recurring. It just makes their respective universes just feel small. |
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One never knows with them, right? 
