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Post by brickwall on Mar 30, 2020 21:44:32 GMT -7
Fellow FASA Trek fans, here’s a question that at first glance you may find weird. But your input will help in crafting this next part of the RPG supplement I’m working on for the game. Going on what I can remember in Trek Canon, Klingons enjoy eating gagh, those infamous serpent worms. They also on special occasions eat “heart of targ”, their version of a wild boar. But since their homeworld Qo'noS is mostly ocean according to the Klingon FASA Supplement, they also eat fish like we Earthlings do. Although I suspect they eat it raw but not like sushi. They’d probably see it as “too fancy” or even “too decadent”. So if they desired to go after Earth fish, either for food or for the challenge of the hunt, what type of our friends with fins would they go after? I mean impressed them enough to want to stock a pond or lake or two on some planet they conquered or colonized with them? Challenge them to a personal one-on-one version of klinzha in a manner of speaking? Two species come to mind in this case.
The first one seems obvious to me – the snakehead fish. This native of Asian and African waters is considered an invasive species by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. From the website of the U.S. Geological Service, this is how threatening they are:
The other type of invasive fish species is the largemouth bass. According to the website “Mother Nature Network”:
Klingons are a fighting people. That is painfully obvious. They love an honorable challenge. So it seems to me they’d go after these types of fish with a spear or even their three bladed dagger. Just for the challenge. Or at least to rub it in the faces of Earthlings.
So for those who’d know better than I, what other type of edible fish would an average Klingon like to tackle? Invasive species or otherwise, it wouldn’t matter. Please let me know and many thanks in advance.
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Post by tinker on Mar 31, 2020 4:52:15 GMT -7
I would think they would go after sharks and Killer Whales.
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Post by brickwall on Mar 31, 2020 14:48:21 GMT -7
I would think they would go after sharks and Killer Whales. Sharks? Yeah, I can see that. Probably the Great Whites especially. But would they also go after or avoid Tiger Sharks? Or Hammerheads? Would they risk hunting them to extinction?
As for Killer Whales, why them? If left alone, they could be as a-okay as what one sees at Sea World.
But about the fresh water fish I mentioned? Snakehead fish would definitely be up their alley, wouldn't you think?
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Post by trynda1701 on Mar 31, 2020 16:02:11 GMT -7
I would think they would go after sharks and Killer Whales. Sharks? Yeah, I can see that. Probably the Great Whites especially. But would they also go after or avoid Tiger Sharks? Or Hammerheads? Would they risk hunting them to extinction? As for Killer Whales, why them? If left alone, they could be as a-okay as what one sees at Sea World. But about the fresh water fish I mentioned? Snakehead fish would definitely be up their alley, wouldn't you think?
What an odd discussion!  The hunting of your suggested fresh water fish, with spear or d'tagh, I could see that. What about Moray eels as well, aren't there a few fresh water species? As for sharks and orcas, that I'm not so sure about. I know it's alien blood, but what about the sharks sensitive blood detection? If there's more that one shark wherever they are stocked, one knick by a tooth, and your Klingon 'fisherman' is swarmed upon! I could perhaps see having a go at a single shark that is isolated somewhere, if your Klingon REALLY wanted the challenge, to prove that he or she could! And have you seen the orcas beaching themselves to get to seals? If they get one, they tend to play with them between orcas! And don't orcas hunt in packs? I could see a Klingon being treated like a volleyball! Even if you had one isolated, I'd think an orca would have speed AND mass on its side!    Not trying to pop poo the whole idea, by the way! I think you just have to choose the right species |
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Post by brickwall on Mar 31, 2020 18:37:02 GMT -7
Sharks? Yeah, I can see that. Probably the Great Whites especially. But would they also go after or avoid Tiger Sharks? Or Hammerheads? Would they risk hunting them to extinction? As for Killer Whales, why them? If left alone, they could be as a-okay as what one sees at Sea World. But about the fresh water fish I mentioned? Snakehead fish would definitely be up their alley, wouldn't you think?
What an odd discussion! The hunting of your suggested fresh water fish, with spear or d'tagh, I could see that. What about Moray eels as well, aren't there a few fresh water species? As for sharks and orcas, that I'm not so sure about. I know it's alien blood, but what about the sharks sensitive blood detection? If there's more that one shark wherever they are stocked, one knick by a tooth, and your Klingon 'fisherman' is swarmed upon! I could perhaps see having a go at a single shark that is isolated somewhere, if your Klingon REALLY wanted the challenge, to prove that he or she could! And have you seen the orcas beaching themselves to get to seals? If they get one, they tend to play with them between orcas! And don't orcas hunt in packs? I could see a Klingon being treated like a volleyball! Even if you had one isolated, I'd think an orca would have speed AND mass on its side! Not trying to pop poo the whole idea, by the way! I think you just have to choose the right species Ooooh! Excellent insight there, Trynda! As in going after Moray Eels, yes! Good point! Muchas gracias!
Also good point about a Klingon going after a isolated shark. So many of them are seasoned warriors and hunters. They don't do "one against many" for the sake of it, only if circumstances cause it to be so.
Odd discussion? Well, my bad in not writing why clearly enough why. Mea maxima culpa! But I asked this in part as it involves background for the next part of the Kephan Unity RPG supplement for the game I'm working on. The earlier bit I wrote on the birth of the IEC is part of it.
That's a big reason why I'm harping about snakehead fish and Klingons. These fish have gills that let them breath air for a time. They have an ability to move on land from pond to pond or lake to lake. They have sharp teeth and bite if threatened. They are an invasive species and eat up native fish they hunt. They put up a struggle when caught.
That's a type of Earth fish a Klingon would love to tackle, one at a time or many. 
Anyone else have input? Many thanks in advance!
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Post by tinker on Apr 1, 2020 5:01:41 GMT -7
Sharks? Yeah, I can see that. Probably the Great Whites especially. But would they also go after or avoid Tiger Sharks? Or Hammerheads? Would they risk hunting them to extinction? As for Killer Whales, why them? If left alone, they could be as a-okay as what one sees at Sea World. But about the fresh water fish I mentioned? Snakehead fish would definitely be up their alley, wouldn't you think?
I don't see Klingons as conservationists, so yeah...they would hunt them to extinction. Why Killer Whales? Because they are the apex predator of our oceans. With most of their home world covered by water, I would see Klingons as open water fishermen. Seeing a Klingon in gaiters standing in a stream with a fishing pole just seems....wrong. You know? |
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Post by brickwall on Apr 1, 2020 9:28:12 GMT -7
Sharks? Yeah, I can see that. Probably the Great Whites especially. But would they also go after or avoid Tiger Sharks? Or Hammerheads? Would they risk hunting them to extinction? As for Killer Whales, why them? If left alone, they could be as a-okay as what one sees at Sea World. But about the fresh water fish I mentioned? Snakehead fish would definitely be up their alley, wouldn't you think?
With most of their home world covered by water, I would see Klingons as open water fishermen. Seeing a Klingon in gaiters standing in a stream with a fishing pole just seems....wrong. You know? Yeah, that's why I'd see them more as spear fishermen closer to shore or in river or pond fishing. Net fishing would be more for open ocean fishing, I'd fishing.
Factory farm fishing? I don't know, maybe it depends on the planet. If we're going by strict FASA Trek Klingon Canon, that is.
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Post by brickwall on Apr 3, 2020 9:51:48 GMT -7
With most of their home world covered by water, I would see Klingons as open water fishermen. Seeing a Klingon in gaiters standing in a stream with a fishing pole just seems....wrong. You know? Yeah, that's why I'd see them more as spear fishermen closer to shore or in river or pond fishing. Net fishing would be more for open ocean fishing, I'd fishing.
Factory farm fishing? I don't know, maybe it depends on the planet. If we're going by strict FASA Trek Klingon Canon, that is.
My apologies for getting hyped up on this. When one has to deal with this damnable OCPD, it can just lead people to do dumb or strange things.  |
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Post by brickwall on Apr 8, 2020 15:37:40 GMT -7
Yeah, that's why I'd see them more as spear fishermen closer to shore or in river or pond fishing. Net fishing would be more for open ocean fishing, I'd fishing.
Factory farm fishing? I don't know, maybe it depends on the planet. If we're going by strict FASA Trek Klingon Canon, that is.
My apologies for getting hyped up on this. When one has to deal with this damnable OCPD, it can just lead people to do dumb or strange things. I apologize to you all if I turned you off by screwing up on this thread. Sorry. |
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Post by krebizfan on Apr 8, 2020 21:58:30 GMT -7
Depends on the version of Klingon.
Ford style: Pragmatic and efficient. The ideal fishing method would be something similar to climbing ladders for salmon but directing the fish into capture buckets where they belong.
TNG style: Honor and very flashy. Cliff diving to catch piranha equivalents with bare hands.
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Post by trynda1701 on Apr 10, 2020 6:49:53 GMT -7
My apologies for getting hyped up on this. When one has to deal with this damnable OCPD, it can just lead people to do dumb or strange things. I apologize to you all if I turned you off by screwing up on this thread. Sorry. Don't be silly. You've come up with an idea for your RPG background, and asked for opinions. I was trying to come up with more thoughts, and couldn't get my thoughts down without sounding like I was poo-pooing the whole idea. I was trying to say what krebizfan says eleqountly below ... Depends on the version of Klingon. Ford style: Pragmatic and efficient. The ideal fishing method would be something similar to climbing ladders for salmon but directing the fish into capture buckets where they belong. TNG style: Honor and very flashy. Cliff diving to catch piranha equivalents with bare hands. If you read the John Ford book "The Final Reflection", 'Imperial Klingons' (the ones with the ridges) are the leaders, who look down on the 'Human fusion Klingons' (TOS TV Klingons) as a necessary evil. Great book, by the way! It's up to you what you want to add to your supplement. 'TNG Klingons' I could see diving in to hunt something like a Moray eel equivalent, with a knife and perhaps a fishing spear, even though back when FASA as published, we only saw Klingons with ridges in the TOS movies. But your background is new also, so as I said, it's up to you. Anyone else have thoughts on this? |
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Post by tinker on Apr 11, 2020 6:35:41 GMT -7
Depends on the version of Klingon. Ford style: Pragmatic and efficient. The ideal fishing method would be something similar to climbing ladders for salmon but directing the fish into capture buckets where they belong. I would think the most efficient way for them would involve explosives.  |
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