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Post by LordOther on Dec 29, 2018 6:43:02 GMT -7
Hey folks I was wondering if anyone has, or know where I can obtain information regarding Close-In Deflector Shield Systems for the FASA system? I recall seeing a PDF which included equipment lists for Federation starship construction from the Movie Era onward to just before the Enterprise-C was launched, but I can't seem to find that now. It would appear to be similar to multi-layered shield rules I've seen, but for earlier vessels (notably the Enterprise class). If any of you have it can recall/know what I'm talking about let me know. Thanks!
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Post by starcruiser on Dec 29, 2018 8:58:29 GMT -7
Not sure on this one... I do think I've seen that somewhere - at some point but..? Another site to check out is Tactical Starship Combat. They have a stack of optional/altered rules for STSTCS (along with a fallow set of pages on Starblazers).
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Post by LordOther on Dec 29, 2018 14:08:49 GMT -7
Not sure on this one... I do think I've seen that somewhere - at some point but..? Another site to check out is Tactical Starship Combat. They have a stack of optional/altered rules for STSTCS (along with a fallow set of pages on Starblazers). Thank you starcruiser, I appreciate the help. I checked the link but didn't find anything there specifically in regards to what I am looking for. It may have been one of the other FASA game sites that's gone the way of the dodo bird. Perhaps someone else has more information, but thank you all the same. 🙂
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Post by tinker on Dec 29, 2018 21:53:19 GMT -7
I have not heard of anything other than the optional shield rules in the link above.
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Post by bazbaziah on Dec 31, 2018 5:34:31 GMT -7
I recall seeing this also, I will have to go back to my back up discs and see if I can find it. It may take some time as there are a few to go through. Do you have anymore info to go on, it might jog my memory? Jim
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Post by LordOther on Dec 31, 2018 11:30:13 GMT -7
I recall seeing this also, I will have to go back to my back up discs and see if I can find it. It may take some time as there are a few to go through. Do you have anymore info to go on, it might jog my memory? Jim If I remember it correctly, it had this profile of the Menagha class Battlecruiser on the cover, and it had tables to do with starship construction for the period I mentioned, but I may be intermixing memories of different publications.
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Post by bazbaziah on Jan 1, 2019 6:53:57 GMT -7
That rings a bell !!
Jim
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Post by bazbaziah on Jan 1, 2019 7:45:08 GMT -7
I think I know which file it is you are looking for but before I go searching discs is it this one pin.it/lwkjyp7nnpmrpkJim
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Post by starcruiser on Jan 1, 2019 9:28:13 GMT -7
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Post by krebizfan on Jan 1, 2019 13:42:35 GMT -7
Since Byran Jecko is listed as a co-author and has posted many other PDFs, maybe contacting him to re-upload this one might be useful. Some of us may have it under a different shorter file name but I can't identify it yet.
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Post by JAFisher44 on Jan 1, 2019 14:06:47 GMT -7
Here's the file, but I don't think it has the system you are looking for. PDF
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Post by bazbaziah on Jan 1, 2019 16:08:52 GMT -7
Can't get the PDF link to open but I have the file located on my backup if anyone else has problems or needs it. I have to agree though it does not have the shield system originaly mentioned in it? Jim
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Post by walrusguy on Jan 1, 2019 17:34:30 GMT -7
Yea - that's one of ours...from back in the day. But I don't remember a Close-In Deflector Shield Systems. I took a glance through the house-rules (as you did) and didn't see anything on it as well. That's really the only place I think we would have listed it.
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Post by LordOther on Jan 2, 2019 8:46:48 GMT -7
Yeah, that wasn't it. It may have been a much earlier iteration of the same publication or not. Aside from the Close-In-Deflector Shield Systems I can recall it had warp drives listed on it such as the FTWB-1 through FTWD-1 and I believe it also had stats for the the FWJ-2 for the first time, and a Federation Plasma Torpedo. I think most of it was derived from the TNG Officer's Manual and the First Year Sourcebook. I definitely appreciate the assistance trying to figure this out.
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Post by bazbaziah on Jan 2, 2019 9:50:35 GMT -7
There was an article in the Galactic Engineers Concordance fan mag that had some specs on additions to the original ship construction manual. That featured the FWJ and FTW engines? I have all of them plus an index so will check that one out for you, don't recall a fed plasma but the GEC was done in the early to mid 90s and my mind isn't what it used to be. Again I will check later for you.
Jim
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Post by walrusguy on Jan 2, 2019 14:24:57 GMT -7
I know I'm missing a BUNCH of the GEC material - but I got that same list somewhere. (Let me know what you got Jim - I'd love to fill in what ever holes I have!) But I'm betting your on the right track...there were a few unusual items on there. That might have been where it came from.
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Post by bazbaziah on Jan 2, 2019 16:52:25 GMT -7
I know I'm missing a BUNCH of the GEC material - but I got that same list somewhere. (Let me know what you got Jim - I'd love to fill in what ever holes I have!) But I'm betting your on the right track...there were a few unusual items on there. That might have been where it came from. There is a piece on updating the FASA construction tables but only for Federation ships. Sadly no mention of a Fed Plasma weapon or close in deflector shields. As for the GEC issues I have them all including the bumper spiral bound final edition. All still in tip top condition. Some really great articles from the early to mid 90s. Some good ship designs too that I have never seen on the web. Jim
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Post by walrusguy on Jan 2, 2019 21:41:31 GMT -7
OMG YOUR KILLING ME!!! I wish someone would get those on-line! That was good stuff (at lease what I saw of it!) I've got some pages in a notebook somewhere - but nothing like what you got. If someone knows where to get PDF's of it all - let me know! Shame that isn't were the items are, though.
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Post by bazbaziah on Jan 3, 2019 0:26:25 GMT -7
I'm trying to contact Roy Firestone, the creator and editor of them to see if he had any objections to me PDFing them all to provide as none profit copies to folk. My only concerns are that a copy gets out their and further copies are made and sold on AND getting the consent of the original authors of each piece to actually copy it? I'm not saying you chaps here would pass them on for profit at all but it has to be considered.
Jim
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Post by kaisernathan1701 on Jan 3, 2019 4:39:57 GMT -7
I'm trying to contact Roy Firestone, the creator and editor of them to see if he had any objections to me PDFing them all to provide as none profit copies to folk. My only concerns are that a copy gets out their and further copies are made and sold on AND getting the consent of the original authors of each piece to actually copy it? I'm not saying you chaps here would pass them on for profit at all but it has to be considered. Jim If anything id be happy to send Roy a 5 bill for all that info
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Post by bazbaziah on Jan 3, 2019 10:14:22 GMT -7
If anything id be happy to send Roy a 5 bill for all that info I'm guessing that's PER issue? Jim
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Post by kaisernathan1701 on Jan 3, 2019 20:33:21 GMT -7
If anything id be happy to send Roy a 5 bill for all that info I'm guessing that's PER issue? Jim I can do that in Feb with my tax return
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Post by JAFisher44 on Jan 5, 2019 0:04:04 GMT -7
I can do that in Feb with my tax return If you get one...
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Post by rabid on Jan 5, 2019 19:05:38 GMT -7
I always thought things like CIDS were part of the "shields" generally.
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Post by LordOther on Jan 5, 2019 20:59:36 GMT -7
I always thought things like CIDS were part of the "shields" generally. Often in TOS there's the call to raise "screens and shields"- seemingly the shields were different than deflector screens. Same thing in TMP when Decker asks if we they should raise the Enterprise's screens and shields before Kirk shoots down the idea as being "too provocative" an action. Finally, in Star Trek II: TWOK there's this dialogue and scene as the Reliant plays mute as it approaches the Enterprise.. KIRK (watches the screen) This is damned peculiar. (beat) Yellow alert.
SAAVIK Energize main defense fields. ALARMS SOUND. Shortly followed after with this dialogue as the Reliant is about to fire on Enterprise.. JOACHIM They still haven't raised their shields. Khan is half out of his seat, sweating with anticipation.
KHAN Raise ours!
INT. ENTERPRISE BRIDGE SPOCK Their shields are going up!
INT. RELIANT BRIDGE KHAN Lock phasers on target.
JOACHIM Locking phasers on target.
INT. ENTERPRISE BRIDGE - FAVORING SPOCK He reacts to his blue-lit scope. SPOCK They're locking phasers - !
KIRK Raise shields! I believe this is the inspiration for the Ships of the Star Fleet, Volume One and the Federation Reference Series citations for the Close-In Deflector Shield System for the Enterprise class. In any case, there you go.
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