drx
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Where has my sonic screwdriver gone?
Posts: 82
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Post by drx on Jul 27, 2012 0:44:09 GMT -7
Love the touch of the old Connie with the modded bridge module.
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Post by Gorn on Jul 27, 2012 6:05:01 GMT -7
Fun speculation, but I dunno - simply because there are so many Oberth and Miranda classes that look unchanged in terms of exteriors in even DS9 timeframe...
Ya we all know it's because they didn't want to spend their budget on changing models they already had, but if it appeared on the show, then it's [fontsize="1"](gorn blaster)[/fontsize] CANNON...
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Post by kaisernathan1701 on Jul 27, 2012 9:59:08 GMT -7
Looks Cool
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Post by IanKeldon on Jul 28, 2012 12:05:27 GMT -7
Upon reflection, I don't like those A-C deck mods, so...
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Post by jeffwright on Jul 28, 2012 13:22:51 GMT -7
I like the swept nacelles.
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Post by Meteo Ascension on Jul 28, 2012 21:41:34 GMT -7
I do the statting for this guy, and I'd probably do up the stats for this one, too.
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Post by IanKeldon on Jul 29, 2012 9:45:13 GMT -7
Meteo, if you do, you're going to have to do a lot of fudging on this one, given the non-FASA systems I put into her.
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Post by trynda1701 on Jul 29, 2012 12:33:25 GMT -7
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Post by Meteo Ascension on Jul 29, 2012 15:12:03 GMT -7
...Yeah, I know, and I don't usually notice that sort of thing; - usually because I was drunk at the time.
So, I've gso, I've got some ships using a +OS Sensor Modifier, first the Ferengi Marauder, and then the Sagan Scout.
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Post by IanKeldon on Jul 31, 2012 7:39:30 GMT -7
Playing a little with "overlays". Constitution 2271 vs 2291 2285 Galaxy vs Constitution 2271
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Post by kaisernathan1701 on Jul 31, 2012 8:56:16 GMT -7
Good stuff
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Post by IanKeldon on Aug 2, 2012 21:58:10 GMT -7
Not the start of a new post "wave", just the result of a dvd-a-thon and some inspiration. Presenting the USS Andromeda Ascendant Image remodified to correct credits...my apologies to JA (again) for the error. I have GOT to do some serious sourcing checks.
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Post by Meteo Ascension on Aug 3, 2012 2:42:09 GMT -7
Upon reflection, I don't like those A-C deck mods, so... Construction Data: Model Numbers- IVA Ship Class- XII Date Entering Service- 2291 Number Constructed- 6 Hull Data: Superstructure Points- 38 Damage Chart- C Size Length- 318 meters Width- 143 meters Height- 71 meters Weight- 202,420 tons Cargo Cargo Units- 460 units Cargo Capacity- 23,000 tons Landing Capability- None Equipment Data: Control Computer Type- M-7A Cloaking Device Type- None Power To Activate- N/A Transporters- Standard 6-person- 4 Combat 20-person- 0 Emergency 22-person- 4 cargo large- 2 cargo small- 2 Other Data: Crew- 496 Passengers- 120 Troops- 0 Shuttlecraft- 6 Engines and Power Data: Total Power Units Available- Movement Point Ratio- 4/1 Warp Engine Type- FWF-2 Number- 2 Power Provided- 34 ea Stress Charts- F/H Maximum Safe Cruising Speed- Warp 8 Emergency Speed- Warp 9.3 Impulse Engine Type- FIF-2 Impulse Engine Output- 16 Weapons and Firing Data: Beam Weapon Type- FH-14 Number- 12 Firing Arcs- 2f, 2 f/p, 2 f/s, 4 360o arc, 2a Firing Chart- T Max Beam Power- 12 Modifiers- +3 - (1-5) +2 - (6-12) +1 - (13-18) Drone Rack Type- FDN-8 Number- 8 per Rack (plus; 2 anti-drones) Racks- 2 MUs- 6 Endurance- 9 turns Power To Arm- 1 Damage- 15 ea Heavy Weapon Type- FP-4 Number- 2 Firing Arcs- 2f Firing Chart- S Power To Arm- 1 Damage- 20 Shields Data: Deflector Shield Type- FSR Shield Point Ratio- 1/3 Maximum Shield Power- 19 Defense Factor- 152.6 Weapon Damage Factor- 176.1
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Post by IanKeldon on Aug 3, 2012 7:13:19 GMT -7
Nice work, but you need to fix a couple of things:
Date Entering Service is 2291
Dimensions are as follows:
Length 318m Width 143m Height 71m
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Post by kaisernathan1701 on Aug 3, 2012 8:18:51 GMT -7
Not the start of a new post "wave", just the result of a dvd-a-thon and some inspiration. Presenting the USS Andromeda Ascendant Cool Ship design
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Post by IanKeldon on Aug 3, 2012 17:16:45 GMT -7
Please see my original post on the Andromeda for important credit update (and another apology)...gentlemen, learn from me and recheck your parts sources.
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Post by Meteo Ascension on Aug 3, 2012 18:05:35 GMT -7
...And what I learned, was that was more creative than those assholes who accuse other people of being rip-offs.
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Post by Meteo Ascension on Aug 3, 2012 18:33:30 GMT -7
Presenting the USS Andromeda Ascendant Andromeda Ascendent Class XVI Class Heavy Battlecruiser Construction Data: Model Numbers- Mk I Ship Class- XV Date Entering Service- 2302 Number Constructed- 5 Hull Data: Superstructure Points- 90 Damage Chart- C Size Length- 314 meters Width- 140 meters Height- 64 meters Weight- 302,500 tons Cargo Cargo Units- 600 units Cargo Capacity- 30,000 tons Landing Capability- None Equipment Data: Control Computer Type- M-8A Cloaking Device Type- None Power To Activate- N/A Transporters- Standard 6-person- 5 Combat 20-person- 5 Emergency 22-person- 4 cargo large- 2 cargo small- 4 Other Data: Crew- 650 Passengers- 65 Troops- 400 Shuttlecraft- 14 Cargo Shuttles- 4 Heavy Shuttles- 6 Warpshuttles- 4 Aquashuttles- 5 Shutugs- 4 Survey Shuttles- 4 Medical Shuttles- 3 Mass-Passenger Shuttles- 4 Engines and Power Data: Total Power Units Available- Movement Point Ratio- 4/1 Warp Engine Type- FWG-2 Number- 2 Power Provided- 22 ea Stress Charts- H/K Maximum Safe Cruising Speed- Warp 8 Emergency Speed- Warp 9 Impulse Engine Type- FIG-1 Impulse Engine Output- 24 Weapons and Firing Data: Beam Weapon Type- FH-15a Number- 13 Firing Arcs- 1f, 1 f/p, 1 f/s, 1p, 1s, 2 f/p/a, 2 f/s/a, 4a Firing Chart- V Max Beam Power- 6 Modifiers- +3 - (1-6) +2 - (7-14) +1 - (15-21) Beam Weapon Type- FMH-4 Number- 2 Firing Arcs- 2 mcf Firing chart- S Max Beam Power-16 Modifiers- +3- (1-6) +2- (7-12) +1- (13-16) Heavy Weapon Type- FP-4 Number- 8 Firing Arcs- 4f, 4a Firing Chart- S Power To Arm- 1 Damage- 20 Shields Data: Deflector Shield Type- FSQ Shield Point Ratio- 1/4 Maximum Shield Power- 17 Defense Factor- 166.3 Weapon Damage Factor- 199.4
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Post by IanKeldon on Aug 3, 2012 18:55:53 GMT -7
Wow...didn't think she'd even be statable...she's a real game breaker...
what does MCF mean?
I wanted to say you'd gone a bit gaga on shuttles, but then again in scale that shuttle deck is 3-4 decks high, so if they're "racked" like the JJ prise's shuttlebay it might work.
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Post by IanKeldon on Aug 3, 2012 18:58:44 GMT -7
...And what I learned, was that was more creative than those assholes who accuse other people of being rip-offs. Meteo, fair is fair...I DID use his Locknar hull w/o crediting him, if only accidentally. I don't think he's being unreasonable in wanting credit where credit is due.
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Post by thescreamingswede on Aug 3, 2012 21:05:40 GMT -7
...And what I learned, was that was more creative than those assholes who accuse other people of being rip-offs. Meteo, fair is fair...I DID use his Locknar hull w/o crediting him, if only accidentally. I don't think he's being unreasonable in wanting credit where credit is due. It reminds me of a copyright infringement case where a plumber was trying to sue a writer for plagerizing his book. There are only so many ways one can tell someone else how to change a toilet, so I am inclined to disagree. The problem with using commonly available tool kits to "kitbash" ship design schematics together is that there is a finite amount of variables and options available. Even if that amount is over a billion different combinations, there is only a billion of them. Other than some outrageous designs, it is only logical that, eventually, duplication will inevitably occur. If someone is using the same toolkits as someone else, both parties have to understand that. Small, minute changes or alterations to a kit's parent piece, to me, doesn't warrant separate credit. If your work was derivative of someone elses; an upgrading of a design to modern times, for example, than yeah, say so. Looking at the two designs, I can see the commonality between them. I also see the similarities in Vance's schematic of the Northampton evident in both the Minuteman and the Olympia, however. Just my input. Both of you have excellent designs. Respectfully theSwede
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drx
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Where has my sonic screwdriver gone?
Posts: 82
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Post by drx on Aug 3, 2012 21:20:05 GMT -7
Well spoke Swede. Well spoke.
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Post by IanKeldon on Aug 3, 2012 21:41:16 GMT -7
No, guys...I double checked my files against JA's originals and I DID in fact use his part (the primary hull from his Loknar refit). I didn't do it on purpose, but I did do it. I owned up to it, and fixed my error.
Please, no more bashing on JA. He deserves credit for his part, and I gave it to him.
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Post by Meteo Ascension on Aug 3, 2012 23:01:04 GMT -7
...Who's bashing on him? I don't see anyone around here doing that, and his parts are good enough.
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Post by thescreamingswede on Aug 4, 2012 0:44:16 GMT -7
I believe you, Ian, and I wasn't trying to come off as bashing anybody. Having designed several ships myself, I can understand the difficulty in NOT trying to duplicate someone elses work. I haven't gone over every design you or J.A. has put out and I am not about to, but I felt that he was a little heavy handed in his reaction. You claimed it was accidental, he didn't believe you.
My comment was an opinion, nothing more. I respect you and JA both as designers and don't believe that either of you would willingly plagerize someone elses work. I mentioned the Northampton to illustrate the "duplication" possibilities when using a common set of kits, not to bash anyone.
theSwede
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