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Post by brickwall on Feb 9, 2021 12:18:19 GMT -7
Question for those more knowledgeable on Romulan policies than I am.
What do the Romulans do with the Klingon ships they capture in battle?
Do they do the restructuring to them like they did to the ships the Klingons sold them during their exchange programs?
Or do they just scrap them and reuse the parts to build their ships?
I ask because in scanning the lists of Klingon ships the Romulans captured over the years, that's a HUGE lot. Perhaps not as big as the Orions but that's still nothing to shake a stick at.
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Post by SITZKRIEG! on Feb 9, 2021 16:28:08 GMT -7
I'd say they convert them but that's just a simple guess/preference on my part if the ships are part of the exchange program, probably scrap them otherwise.
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Post by rarcher on Feb 10, 2021 8:52:03 GMT -7
For me in my in universe lore I had a mix of results. For those they deemed 'worth it' in systems they either used them themselves for espionage or other covert missions. Or scrapped them or used them as targets in weapon tests.
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Post by trynda1701 on Feb 10, 2021 11:24:06 GMT -7
It says in the V-11 Stormbird SRM description (the traded D-7As) that the Romulan crews didn't like serving on what they considered enemy vessels. So no wonder the alliance didn't last long. Yet the second and third traded batches were fully converted to Romulan tech. But for Klingon vessels captured by Romulans, you could argue, "we killed Klingons, let's take all their stuff" (sorry for the D&D cliche)! So although you had to use your ships to attack them, and they may be damaged in the process, you've just gotten yourself free ships! Depending on what is on the list, you could convert them to basic patrol vessels, or, as rarcher says, you could use them for espionage purposes after the alliance broke down, or use them as raiders on enemy or independent freighters, trying to blame it on the Klingons! |
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Post by brickwall on Feb 10, 2021 11:53:13 GMT -7
Okay, friends, I finally went through the list of Klingon ships on the ( fasaststcs.com/) website that the Romulans captured. And as expected, it was a whole bunch of stuff they got!
The only exceptions I made in this listing was avoiding models made and fighting during the Cardassian War and the Dominion War. I thought it was only right and fair to keep it to the TOS/TMP Era. Apologies in advance if I get it wrong or stray into those eras and didn't catch it. Here goes.
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ASSAULT SHIPS T-1 Invader -- 5 ships CRUISERSD-3 HoH’SuS -- 2 ships D-4 Predator -- 5 ships D-7 (Various) -- 20 ships D-10 Riskadh -- 2 ships D-19 Great Wing -- 1 ship D-21 D’Ktagh -- 1 ship D-22 Hidden Blade -- 2 ships D-23 Noble Tactician -- 1 ship D-27 Bringer of Proclamation -- 5 ships D-28 Deathbird -- 15 ships D-31 Death Boot -- 1 ship D-63 Hammerhead -- 1 ship D-125 Decimation -- 2 ships
DESTROYERSD-2 Stingtoung -- 3 ships D-11 One Wing -- 2 ships D-16 Swiftwind -- 4 ships D-17 Strong Wind -- 1 ship D-18 Protector of Brothers -- 8 ships D-30 K’Temenry -- 7 ships ESCORTSK-23 Little Killer -- 5 ships K-26 Taladtor -- 2 ships FRIGATESL-3 Destruction -- 6 ships L-9 Saber -- 1 ship GUNBOATS/CUTTERS/HUNTER-KILLERSK-3 Kalath -- 14 ships K-4 Enforcer -- 21 ships K-5 Watcher -- 4 ships K-9 Hegh’ Ghop -- 6 ships K-37 Mevak -- 3 ships K-41 Wolf -- 4 ships
SCOUTSK-17 Deathstalker -- 3 ships
FREIGHTERSG-8 Traders Game -- 9 ships TRANSPORTSG-5 Tugboat -- 4 ships TENDERS/REPAIR FACILITIESS-5 Healer -- 2 ships = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Can you say "WOW!".
With all these "prizes of war" the Romulans snagged in battle, there is incredible potential for future battle or RPG scenarios. What would you think? How would you shape them? Would they involve the Orions or Feds? Or the IKS? Or who else? Please let me know what your opinions on this. Many thanks in advance!  |
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Post by rarcher on Feb 10, 2021 13:20:09 GMT -7
Now that you mention it pawning them off to the IKS might make sense in the later TMP era to sow chaos among the fed/klink 'peace'
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Post by tinker on Feb 11, 2021 6:22:40 GMT -7
It says in the V-11 Stormbird SRM description (the traded D-7As) that the Romulan crews didn't like serving on what they considered enemy vessels. So no wonder the alliance didn't last long. Yet the second and third traded batches were fully converted to Romulan tech. But for Klingon vessels captured by Romulans, you could argue, "we killed Klingons, let's take all their stuff" (sorry for the D&D cliche)! So although you had to use your ships to attack them, and they may be damaged in the process, you've just gotten yourself free ships! Depending on what is on the list, you could convert them to basic patrol vessels, or, as rarcher says, you could use them for espionage purposes after the alliance broke down, or use them as raiders on enemy or independent freighters, trying to blame it on the Klingons! While the Romulans do not like using enemy ships - they do use them. This indicates a certain level of expediency in their military doctrine. If the ship was not damaged significantly, I would think that the Romulans would recycle that resource and convert it to Romulan tech. If the hull was too heavily damaged, they would then likely strip it of its useful resources and destroy the rest. I do not agree with FASA having the Romulans deploy these ships along the Klingon border. That would be horribly impractical as it would lead to a lot of confusion in combat. There is a saying: "Friendly fire isn't friendly." |
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Post by macdevious on Jun 5, 2021 13:24:36 GMT -7
Since I play RPG's A lot! my own personal preference is they would keep and use them. I always do and if in Game I have a ship yard I cut up the wrecks and use them along with mined ore and other resources to build more ships. Hey you got to get ahead in the universe some how!! DnD Type Games Cliché??
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Post by thescreamingswede on Jun 6, 2021 10:24:34 GMT -7
Any information you can get on your enemy is always a plus, and capturing an enemy vessel is always a bonus.
In this case, I'm sure several of these ships were simply dismantled and studied. Any useful technology that the Romulans may not have had available to them could have been backward engineered from captured equipment.
It is also probable that the Romulans would repair what they could and use captured Klingon vessels as training units for special forces or for tactical training. Being able to play out strategies and tactics with actual enemy equipment would show new captains the strengths and weaknesses of a given design. They could also use them for infiltration and espionage missions.
Worse come to worse, they could simply become targets for live fire weapon training ot experimental weapons.
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Post by JAFisher44 on Jun 9, 2021 10:12:21 GMT -7
When I was a teen I played a long campaign style game of STCS with my cousin and her husband. We used the construction manual and some homebrew to put captured ships back into service. When you're on the ropes and your space empire is about to collapse you're just happy to have a ship to engage the enemy with. Romulans are for more pragmatic when they are desperate!
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