atolm
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Post by atolm on Jun 11, 2021 15:23:53 GMT -7
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Post by tardiscaptain on Jun 11, 2021 16:35:08 GMT -7
Oooh this looks nice. The angles of the warp engines look interesting. How does it look from the front or at an angle?
Thank you very much for doing this.
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Post by trynda1701 on Jun 12, 2021 7:51:08 GMT -7
atolmThe port elevation definitely gives us a TOS Bird of Prey astetic. The canted inwards nacelle gives it a difference though. Unusual to see it done apparently on computer instead of your usual hand drawn style. But cool work as always, atolm tardiscaptainHaving not read any Trek novels in years, what year(s) does this "Forgotten War" take place in? Can you give a brief overview or context without spoilers of the novel for those that might still want to read it?
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Post by tardiscaptain on Jun 12, 2021 8:10:23 GMT -7
atolmThe port elevation definitely gives us a TOS Bird of Prey astetic. The canted inwards nacelle gives it a difference though. Unusual to see it done apparently on computer instead of your usual hand drawn style. But cool work as always, atolm tardiscaptainHaving not read any Trek novels in years, what year(s) does this "Forgotten War" take place in? Can you give a brief overview or context without spoilers of the novel for those that might still want to read it? trynda1701The novel is set during the TNG series (2367). The Federation and the Tarn Empire are conducting a join mission into the newly opened Tarn Neutral Zone. This zone was set up 100's of years ago (the year references are a little wonky so GMs may have to adjust to fit) after a war between the Tarn and the UFP. It has not been visited for a very long time and the discoveries made may plunge the two governments back into battle. The Tarn are a reptilian race with a society built around honor values. I found the race very interesting and always wanted to homebrew them for RPG purposes.
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Post by trynda1701 on Jun 12, 2021 8:25:51 GMT -7
atolmThe port elevation definitely gives us a TOS Bird of Prey astetic. The canted inwards nacelle gives it a difference though. Unusual to see it done apparently on computer instead of your usual hand drawn style. But cool work as always, atolm tardiscaptainHaving not read any Trek novels in years, what year(s) does this "Forgotten War" take place in? Can you give a brief overview or context without spoilers of the novel for those that might still want to read it? trynda1701The novel is set during the TNG series (2367). The Federation and the Tarn Empire are conducting a join mission into the newly opened Tarn Neutral Zone. This zone was set up 100's of years ago (the year references are a little wonky so GMs may have to adjust to fit) after a war between the Tarn and the UFP. It has not been visited for a very long time and the discoveries made may plunge the two governments back into battle. The Tarn are a reptilian race with a society built around honor values. I found the race very interesting and always wanted to homebrew them for RPG purposes. tardiscaptainThanks for that. Can you approximately say where would this Neutral Zone be, both in FASA terms, and the "Star Charts" layout? Is it an area around a few systems, or just the Tarn homeworld?
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Post by tardiscaptain on Jun 12, 2021 8:47:47 GMT -7
trynda1701The novel is set during the TNG series (2367). The Federation and the Tarn Empire are conducting a join mission into the newly opened Tarn Neutral Zone. This zone was set up 100's of years ago (the year references are a little wonky so GMs may have to adjust to fit) after a war between the Tarn and the UFP. It has not been visited for a very long time and the discoveries made may plunge the two governments back into battle. The Tarn are a reptilian race with a society built around honor values. I found the race very interesting and always wanted to homebrew them for RPG purposes. tardiscaptainThanks for that. Can you approximately say where would this Neutral Zone be, both in FASA terms, and the "Star Charts" layout? Is it an area around a few systems, or just the Tarn homework? trynda1701Educated guess, multiple systems, but not a lot of them. The Tarn Imperial Fleet had the resources to build ships powerful enough that three of them could outgun a Galaxy class starship. The Tarn were a race that thought that expansion was a right. Not being able to expand is what lead to the the war with the Federation. They had at least one battle with the Klingons (and respected them for it afterwards) so they would be near enough to the Klingon Empire to bump into. I'm thinking about the size as some of the governments in the Triangle (4-10 systems at the most). Where exactly could be a grey area. There were a lot of references to the war being around 200 years ago. This would have meant that the war happened right after the founding of the Federation. So the Tarn Empire could be between the core Federation worlds and the Klingon Empire. Yet there were TOS references (uniforms, Constitution-Class, etc.) so the events really could have taken place around 100 years ago. This line of thought could move the Tarn Empire further away from the core Federation worlds. The Tarn ships reminded Picard of Romulan vessels and wondered if they were influenced by them (thus part of the wonderful design put together by atolm) so it is possible that there may have been some contact with that empire. TL/DR: I'd place them near the Triangle, but not directly in it.
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Post by trynda1701 on Jun 12, 2021 9:16:33 GMT -7
tardiscaptainThanks for that. Can you approximately say where would this Neutral Zone be, both in FASA terms, and the "Star Charts" layout? Is it an area around a few systems, or just the Tarn homework? trynda1701Educated guess, multiple systems, but not a lot of them. The Tarn Imperial Fleet had the resources to build ships powerful enough that three of them could outgun a Galaxy class starship. The Tarn were a race that thought that expansion was a right. Not being able to expand is what lead to the the war with the Federation. They had at least one battle with the Klingons (and respected them for it afterwards) so they would be near enough to the Klingon Empire to bump into. I'm thinking about the size as some of the governments in the Triangle (4-10 systems at the most). Where exactly could be a grey area. There were a lot of references to the war being around 200 years ago. This would have meant that the war happened right after the founding of the Federation. So the Tarn Empire could be between the core Federation worlds and the Klingon Empire. Yet there were TOS references (uniforms, Constitution-Class, etc.) so the events really could have taken place around 100 years ago. This line of thought could move the Tarn Empire further away from the core Federation worlds. The Tarn ships reminded Picard of Romulan vessels and wondered if they were influenced by them (thus part of the wonderful design put together by atolm) so it is possible that there may have been some contact with that empire. TL/DR: I'd place them near the Triangle, but not directly in it. That would make sense. One of the FASA adventure modules, "Decision at Midnight " had a small alliance of five planets within the Klingon Neutral Zone (the Asparax Confederation), between Rigel and the Triangle, who were condering joining the Empire. Location can be seen in this Memory Beta article... memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Asparax_Confederation...so another precedent for independent planets within/near Federation space, as shown on screen and in FASA.
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Post by atolm on Jun 20, 2021 5:23:14 GMT -7
Oooh this looks nice. The angles of the warp engines look interesting. How does it look from the front or at an angle? Thank you very much for doing this. NP. I'll see what I can do for the bow or 3/4 perspective.
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