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Post by rabid on Oct 1, 2016 7:22:27 GMT -7
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Post by rarcher on Oct 2, 2016 15:18:38 GMT -7
Whats wrong with the 2nd one? I mean I could see that working out as a frigate design sure the 1st is a stretch and the 3rd just whacko (though I could argue one could say all those warp nacelle housings contain a warp core and are like a giant single launch warp core missile) LOL
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Post by rabid on Oct 2, 2016 20:21:20 GMT -7
The second ship looks good except for the weapons pod/warp pylons. The anti-matter conduits for generating the warp field have to travel through the Photon Torp tubes. I don't think you'd really want ordinance packed in close to anti-matter in case of a breach. More to the point if that's a STTWoK era ship, the anti-matter conduits probably wouldn't fit since we know how long/wide a photon launcher is, even if it weren't branching out from there in a "T" junction.
I like the aesthetics of the ship but once I started thinking about it, design inconsistencies started piling up and it was ruined. But what do you expect I'm a total nerd for even noticing.
If you put the photons on the front of the saucer it would look cool as hell.
Also "warp core missile"! HAHA! I'll take three! we should totally write up an 'overkill' construction sheet, totally able to fire warp engines like tomahawks. Because it's cool.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2016 15:51:02 GMT -7
Y'know... the second ship was almost cool. Reposition the pylons and maybe...
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Post by zaarin7 on Oct 3, 2016 18:35:45 GMT -7
I could see the second one being a big DD or a CL design.
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Post by krebizfan on Oct 3, 2016 23:07:49 GMT -7
I almost like the second one. Feels plausible as an alternate design study which cuts down on the redundant pylons to reduce cost. Not so fond of how the saucer has to wedged into the hangar deck nor of the half open hatch on the bottom.
I am willing to accept slightly off art. Now, badly crafted back story tends to set me off, especially any ship that uses first or biggest in the description.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 3:54:05 GMT -7
I am willing to accept slightly off art. Now, badly crafted back story tends to set me off, especially any ship that uses first or biggest in the description. Agreed. These ships often have dark and brooding captains with facial scars and a crew of Mary Sues.
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Post by rabid on Oct 4, 2016 8:51:01 GMT -7
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 9:10:11 GMT -7
Uhmmm... yeah. With apologies to the designer, the Scout Falcon is actually kinda silly. Nacelles are out of scale to the saucer, and I gotta wonder where the warp-core is located.
Moving the Warp Core into the saucer would be a major engineering rework. Better off doing it Miranda-style and sticking it on the back.
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Post by rabid on Oct 4, 2016 9:21:14 GMT -7
Some of the big ships with smaller warp nacelles (i.e. the voyager) actually look cool. But if you look at that the captain has a pipe with flesh dissolving warp coolant possibly up his ass. That's one way to stop 'rhoids I reckon.
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Post by krebizfan on Oct 4, 2016 11:35:29 GMT -7
Uhmmm... yeah. With apologies to the designer, the Scout Falcon is actually kinda silly. Nacelles are out of scale to the saucer, and I gotta wonder where the warp-core is located. Moving the Warp Core into the saucer would be a major engineering rework. Better off doing it Miranda-style and sticking it on the back. Some might stick to older idea of having the matter-antimatter reaction occur inside the nacelles. Just need to move power cables around. The resultant ship would have to be only capable of warp very slow and the nacelles would likely break off if the full weapon suite was fired but not completely impossible. Would the sort of never to be built design that often is given to inexperienced draftsmen in the real world; in this case, maybe an emergency monitor created around a spare saucer. Seriously, the painting of it looks a lot better. web.archive.org/web/20090106145844/http://wolf359a.anet-stl.com/pic/p98.html Amazing what can be done be not showing the angles the design looks the worst.
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Post by JAFisher44 on Oct 4, 2016 19:17:35 GMT -7
That thing looks stupid AF from any angle.
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Post by rarcher on Oct 4, 2016 19:46:43 GMT -7
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Post by zaarin7 on Oct 5, 2016 15:27:36 GMT -7
The one with the 4 small engines would work as a DD or an FF if the engines were moved back to the rear of the saucer IMHO. Maybe a Class III to V ship.
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Post by rabid on Oct 8, 2016 6:19:10 GMT -7
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Post by krebizfan on Oct 8, 2016 10:33:21 GMT -7
I always thought the lower pod of the Oberth had limited connections to the main hull viewing it as a quarantine area for crews returning from a planet. Get space plague and only the landing party and medical staff treating them die. Serious enough, detach the entire pod, and destroy it from a distance.
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Post by rabid on Oct 9, 2016 12:18:45 GMT -7
That makes sense, as a good spot for a quarantine. So is that not the engineering section? ... I'm so confused...
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Post by jeffwright on Oct 16, 2016 14:19:29 GMT -7
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Post by rabid on Oct 22, 2016 16:36:42 GMT -7
You're right it is a bit thicker, I can see what they were going for but what's with all the extra roll bars people put on things...
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Post by jeffwright on Oct 23, 2016 13:37:49 GMT -7
The roll-bars they can lose. I might scale up the saucer and raise the nacelles to keep the starfleet swan look. You want designs to be flowing.
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Post by rabid on Oct 26, 2016 8:52:18 GMT -7
Yes and not always "down and to the right"!
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Post by jeffwright on Oct 30, 2016 13:05:28 GMT -7
That's headlights...heh.
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