Romulan Flagship, "Praetor's Glory"...

[atolm]

This is intended as a TNG Romulan equivalent to Air Force One.
I designed her with inspiration from a Bird of Paradise mating dance.
I envision her at around 500 metres long. Enjoy

Romulan Saeihr'alha-Class:

Direct Link:
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[trynda1701]

Amazing as always,Atolm. Looks like a D'Deridex variant with FASA styling ala the Winged Defender class!

Looking forward to seeing the other views.

[atolm]

Feb 9, 2017 14:31:41 GMT -7 trynda1701 said:

Amazing as always,Atolm. Looks like a D'Deridex variant with FASA styling ala the Winged Defender class!

Looking forward to seeing the other views.

Thanks mate


Dorsal:

Direct Link:
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[atolm]

Front:

Direct Link:
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[ufc465537]

I really like this design! Its probably my all time favorite Rommie ship now. I was a little sketchy with the side view, but its grown on me- well done!

[kaisernathan1701]

Lovely Bird

[rabid]

I can imagine the screen of the Enterprise D, this gloriously fel and impressive ship decloaks into view. External view: dwarfs the enterprise.
Cut to bridge
Picard (under his breath): *mummy!*

[zaarin7]

I find your work amazing. Now we just need stat's in a pdf and counters to put them to the test.

[atolm]

Thanks everyone! Sorry fer the late reply.

[pericles]

I like the basic design, but I think the beak should be closed.

[walrusguy]

I was just getting ready to Stat this all out - turn it B&W etc when I noticed the size you'd suggested. I think it might be a bit too small... At 500 m shes a bit small compared to the classic Warbird.



However, I think if you go in the opposite direction - you end up with something that seems more like an "Air Force One" kinda deal...




Of course the larger size has a HUGE effect on the overall class of the ship - crew, weapons, power - all that kinda jazz... Not sure which fits you original idea best.

[atolm]

Mar 30, 2017 17:26:16 GMT -7 pericles said:

I like the basic design, but I think the beak should be closed.

Why does everyone think the "beak" is open? Its a horn on an alien bird. LOL J/k lol

[atolm]

Apr 3, 2017 13:24:39 GMT -7 walrusguy said:

I was just getting ready to Stat this all out - turn it B&W etc when I noticed the size you'd suggested. I think it might be a bit too small... At 500 m shes a bit small compared to the classic Warbird.

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However, I think if you go in the opposite direction - you end up with something that seems more like an "Air Force One" kinda deal...


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Of course the larger size has a HUGE effect on the overall class of the ship - crew, weapons, power - all that kinda jazz... Not sure which fits you original idea best.

Excellent work so far mate
And yeah, I wanted her to be large, but not too huge. Even at some 500m(feel free to modify the size a bit as it does not need to be a round number)she is big, a Gal is around 690m...so not too small. Think of it as a cruiser, she is a capable ship, but not a warbird.
The ship's overall shape is what is supposed to make an impression, not her overall scale.

[rabid]

Apr 4, 2017 16:04:06 GMT -7 atolm said:

Mar 30, 2017 17:26:16 GMT -7 pericles said:

I like the basic design, but I think the beak should be closed.

Why does everyone think the "beak" is open? Its a horn on an alien bird. LOL J/k lol

It looks like a kestrel screaming or a raven dropping the cheese.

Maybe there's a Gouda class shuttle flying to a Fox class shuttle carrier.

That's enough "Aesop" making bad puns now.

[walrusguy]

OK! Did a write up - but I'm not sure it's worthy of your amazing design...


fasaststcs.com/index.php/thefleets/romulan-star-empire/v-65-saeihralha-class-xv-command-cruiser/

Feel free to be critical and let me know what (if any) changes you think should be made.

I will say this - after looking at the top and side views - I REALLY like the aft section and it's resemblance to a more angular version of a Warbird. In fact - for some reason I see it as a smaller version of the Warbird - which lead to the idea that the A-Type Warbird is similarly shaped but smaller than the B-type. 

Quick question - over on TrekBBS I saw this little number:



Any chance you've done a side view of the wings? I'm totally loving the simplicity yet awesome look of this one - I can see 3 or 4 different ships being created from it (we need more Roulans!!) But I wouldn't DARE try and do the wings you have - I'd butcher the hell out of em!

Anyways! Thanks again - let me know what you think!

[brickwall]

Apr 7, 2017 8:36:05 GMT -7 walrusguy said:

OK! Did a write up - but I'm not sure it's worthy of your amazing design...


fasaststcs.com/index.php/thefleets/romulan-star-empire/v-65-saeihralha-class-xv-command-cruiser/

Feel free to be critical and let me know what (if any) changes you think should be made.

I will say this - after looking at the top and side views - I REALLY like the aft section and it's resemblance to a more angular version of a Warbird. In fact - for some reason I see it as a smaller version of the Warbird - which lead to the idea that the A-Type Warbird is similarly shaped but smaller than the B-type. 

Quick question - over on TrekBBS I saw this little number:



Any chance you've done a side view of the wings? I'm totally loving the simplicity yet awesome look of this one - I can see 3 or 4 different ships being created from it (we need more Romulans!!) But I wouldn't DARE try and do the wings you have - I'd butcher the hell out of em!

Anyways! Thanks again - let me know what you think!

Walrusguy, I like your backstory very, very much! Quite detailed. I also liked how you put in the Gorns into it as well, for I sense there isn't enough mention of them in backstories.

Congratulations on this effort!

[walrusguy]

Thanks Brickwall! The original FASA maps had the Gorn and Romulans along a mutual boarder. I really wish we had about 10-20 more angular FASA style Gorn ships as we want to do a scenario pack similar to the Whiteflame. That ANOTHER reason I LOVE Atolm's work - he does a number of classic style Romulans that would be perfect for such a work.

Of course I ALSO wish there were about 20 Andorian ships - a half dozen Nausiccan ships - oh man - I got a list of "wishes"...

Anyways - thanks again. I'm hoping to get more of Atolm's work up with some nifty back stories and the like.

[brickwall]

Apr 8, 2017 8:42:28 GMT -7 walrusguy said:

Thanks Brickwall! The original FASA maps had the Gorn and Romulans along a mutual boarder. I really wish we had about 10-20 more angular FASA style Gorn ships as we want to do a scenario pack similar to the Whiteflame. That ANOTHER reason I LOVE Atolm's work - he does a number of classic style Romulans that would be perfect for such a work.

Of course I ALSO wish there were about 20 Andorian ships - a half dozen Nausiccan ships - oh man - I got a list of "wishes"...

Anyways - thanks again. I'm hoping to get more of Atolm's work up with some nifty back stories and the like.

No problem at all, Walrusguy.

And as a possible future project, perhaps you might do a scenario pack using the New Factions we have here on the Forum. For example the Sathar Territories of TheScreamingSwede or Gorn's Venturi people. And yes -- mea maxima culpa -- the Kephan Unity as well. Or maybe cook up something with the First Federation. You know, those guys with the huge globes-within-a-globe ships from the TOS episode "The Corbomite Manuever". Something like that.

Many thanks again for your excellent work!

[atolm]

Thant's some Great stuff brickwall! I liked the write-up very much.
I do not have a winged side view of that bop, but I might be able to provide one for you.

[walrusguy]

Thank Atolm! The more I look at it - the more I realize that it could be several classes/ new ships. Couple of destroyers - a light cruiser - perhaps an escort...

And I STILL think that the Saeihr'alha mid and back sections look like a cool A-Type warbird - smaller, more angular that kinda thing. Thanks for all you do Atolm - your work continues to inspire!

Brickwall - I'm hoping to streamline my PDF's and Excel spreadsheets that I personally use so that others will be able to create their own scenario books. The problem is that things like Word and PowerPoint are limiting when it comes to desk-top publishing. With PDF's - you can put in all the background layout and the like - making it LOOK good - but it's even more limiting on adding in text. However - perhaps in a couple of months I can relook at the old sheets I used to have (back before InDesign, Photoshop etc!)

[darthgiddy]

First step to creating the Praetor's Glory... the V-63 (SARTORIX) CLASS XV HEAVY CRUISER....

  

Although, I might do the Praetor's Glory with  a modified Wing set up...  Or both... not sure yet.

[kaisernathan1701]

Sweet

[darthgiddy]

Apr 3, 2017 13:24:39 GMT -7 walrusguy said:

I was just getting ready to Stat this all out - turn it B&W etc when I noticed the size you'd suggested. I think it might be a bit too small... At 500 m shes a bit small compared to the classic Warbird.



However, I think if you go in the opposite direction - you end up with something that seems more like an "Air Force One" kinda deal...




Of course the larger size has a HUGE effect on the overall class of the ship - crew, weapons, power - all that kinda jazz... Not sure which fits you original idea best.

if we go with the bigger version, she is roughly 1,635.2M long and 1,602M tall based on a 1,353M length for the D'deridex... 

[darthgiddy]

and just for further reference the V-63 comes in at 675.2M so here she is added in for reference to the Praetor's Glory!

[darthgiddy]

OK, So I have officially started on Praetor's Glory and Praetor's Sword:



Praetor's Glory:  
Front view
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I will have more on "PG" later...