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Post by atolm on Apr 11, 2017 17:59:30 GMT -7
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Post by brickwall on Apr 11, 2017 19:43:36 GMT -7
Congratulations, Atolm, you did it again. Neat and sweet!
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Post by pericles on Apr 12, 2017 12:47:28 GMT -7
This is a slick looking ship. Clearly a predecessor of the Warbird from TNG
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Post by JAFisher44 on Apr 12, 2017 13:28:13 GMT -7
I'd like to think it's a successor to the warbird in TNG. A sleek sexy upgrade.
Of course, Atolm, you are now obligated to produce the other two views.
Suggestion: Start including a scale reference in the corner of these pics.
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Post by atolm on Apr 12, 2017 14:30:40 GMT -7
Thanks everyone. I'd like to think it's a successor to the warbird in TNG. A sleek sexy upgrade. Of course, Atolm, you are now obligated to produce the other two views. Suggestion: Start including a scale reference in the corner of these pics. LOL...Already ahead of you. Refinement to come....As for scale I leave that to you guys...lol Direct Link: s29.postimg.org/u70h9ict3/Romulan_A-_Type_Warbird_00a.jpg
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Post by pericles on Apr 12, 2017 15:47:34 GMT -7
Okay, I'm confused, is this ship a design from before the TNG warbird or after?
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Post by atolm on Apr 12, 2017 17:31:09 GMT -7
Okay, I'm confused, is this ship a design from before the TNG warbird or after? This is an A-Type Warbird. The B-Type is supposedly the D'deridex...now I would presume that the A-type is a contemporary of the B-Type, and not necessarily PreTNG...but rather like the Nebula and Galaxy relationship. I envision this ship as a much more military minded warbird, at a length of some 800m, in contrast to the well over 1000m D'deridex.
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Post by pericles on Apr 12, 2017 19:10:57 GMT -7
Okay. Never heard the D'deridex as a B model, but that's not an issue. Not sure why I perceived this ship as smaller even before you said it was, which is why I thought it was a precedessor. However, as a contemporary of the Galaxy/Nebula model makes perfect sense too.
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Post by walrusguy on Apr 13, 2017 6:30:41 GMT -7
YYYYEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!
Totally working on that right away! You continue to be an absolutely AMAZING designer! Thank you so much!!!
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Post by kaisernathan1701 on Apr 15, 2017 18:47:46 GMT -7
Very awesome Romulan design
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Post by pericles on Apr 16, 2017 13:48:22 GMT -7
So, who is ready to stat this thing up?
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Post by walrusguy on Apr 17, 2017 14:06:50 GMT -7
Wanted to do a back story before posting - but it's SOOO sweet looking I might just post tonight when I get home.
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Post by walrusguy on Apr 17, 2017 14:08:29 GMT -7
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Post by pericles on Apr 18, 2017 8:14:39 GMT -7
Outstanding work walrusguy!
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Post by atolm on Apr 18, 2017 15:07:27 GMT -7
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Post by atolm on Apr 18, 2017 15:08:58 GMT -7
the Direct link is a larger pic.
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Post by walrusguy on Apr 18, 2017 18:32:20 GMT -7
OK! New graphic updated...i'm working on a backstory...and I'll try to trace it in the coming weeks.
Again - I LOVE this look. Can't wait to see more in the future.
(I'll post when the backstory is up in case you want to read it.)
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Post by atolm on Apr 19, 2017 14:44:13 GMT -7
OK! New graphic updated...i'm working on a backstory...and I'll try to trace it in the coming weeks. Again - I LOVE this look. Can't wait to see more in the future. (I'll post when the backstory is up in case you want to read it.) Thanks mate. I am always interested in a good read BTW Here is an old pic that may help you out in some way in creating a lineage for the TNG Warbirds...This is a Proto-Warbird...a Test ship or "Proof of Concept".
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Post by rarcher on Apr 19, 2017 17:44:38 GMT -7
ya know at first quick glance atolm the above pic slightly modified would look like a disruptor rifle lol
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Post by trynda1701 on Apr 20, 2017 13:03:17 GMT -7
Another fine pair of art pieces, atolm. Awesome as always. I remember when I first saw the Warbird and being impressed. And then thinking but is it a waste of space with that HUGE gulf between the hull? But I suppose you can reason that it's just an intimidation tactic. If the Empire was pinned in behind the Neutral Zone for more than a century and a half, limiting resources, a wide stance hull liked this looks bloody intimidating, but its not a solid shape like a Borg cube is!
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Post by atolm on Apr 20, 2017 14:55:50 GMT -7
ya know at first quick glance atolm the above pic slightly modified would look like a disruptor rifle lol lol somehow I do not believe that is a bad thing. Another fine pair of art pieces, atolm. Awesome as always. I remember when I first saw the Warbird and being impressed. And then thinking but is it a waste of space with that HUGE gulf between the hull? But I suppose you can reason that it's just an intimidation tactic. If the Empire was pinned in behind the Neutral Zone for more than a century and a half, limiting resources, a wide stance hull liked this looks bloody intimidating, but its not a solid shape like a Borg cube is! I always thought that it aided in the cloaking device efficiency, as the shape of the hull was not so "definite". And Thanks for the support
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Post by JAFisher44 on Apr 21, 2017 20:22:50 GMT -7
From the side I love this ship but I'm not as impressed from the top or front. The D shape formed by the flat bottom and curved top "wings" doesn't sit right with my eye. I think I'd like it better if the bottom were curved up a bit and the nacelles were a little further out. Also, the nacelles are too boxy for my liking. I imagined from the side view that they would be more sleek. Narrower and tapered instead of the boxy look you've given them.
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Post by atolm on Apr 22, 2017 5:12:44 GMT -7
From the side I love this ship but I'm not as impressed from the top or front. The D shape formed by the flat bottom and curved top "wings" doesn't sit right with my eye. I think I'd like it better if the bottom were curved up a bit and the nacelles were a little further out. Also, the nacelles are too boxy for my liking. I imagined from the side view that they would be more sleek. Narrower and tapered instead of the boxy look you've given them. Well you're free to "refit" her as to your liking, as I opted what I felt worked for the era, and style. It's a filler ship, not some revolutionary design. The D'deridex, has boxy nacelles. This is a smaller sister-ship, hence it has those nacelles, or something analogous as this is a contemporary. I think the blade-like nacelles that have been getting more notoriety ever since the flat Valdor-type starship has appealed to a lot of artists are way too overused with seemingly almost no thinking into them (I'm pretty sure most can attest that when it comes to nacelles, not too many artists seem to put some thought into them, but rather just just appear to just pop something on with seemingly little, if any thought). As for the overall design, the canon Romulan starships have always had a deceptively simple elegance to their ships. With sweeping compound curves and hard lines merging into a seamless sculpture of a shape. You will also find, that most Orthographic views of a ship (or any piece of technology for that matter), generally have much more beauty when viewed in a perspective views. That always occurs as the full shape of the design takes shape as it was intended by the designer. One can have beautiful orthographic views and come up with a poorly looking ship. or you can have a weird looking orthos and have the most beautiful thing ever in its perspective shots. Just saying. But feel free to modify the ship to your liking, as it is already to mine. I would be honoured
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Post by rabid on May 8, 2017 10:36:57 GMT -7
ATolm, they did something similar in the old Star Trek Cartoon (Ca Star Trek IV era) where they shortened the D-7's wings, pointed them forward, and put a roll bar (*eyeroll*) connecting the warp engines.
That said your design of an early D'daridex looks too good. Almost like a design from a separate race/power.
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Post by macrossmartin on May 10, 2017 1:56:20 GMT -7
I think that's a very nice extrapolation from Probert's original. Well done!
But I'm even more impressed by the idea of the 'proto-warbird'. I've always thought the warbird's completely different design direction, compared to the TOS Bird of Prey, suggests the Romulans at some point took stock, decided they were heading in the wrong direction, and started all over again. No matter what is tried, I have never seen a believable transition design that links the Romulan BoP to the D'deridex.
The 'proto-warbird' suggests there was no transition; it was new thinking, a successful re-direction of starship design. I like that idea!
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