Excelsior page has been refreshed

[Brad R. Torgersen]

Okay, the Excelsior page has been refreshed,

www.ststcsolda.space/federation/excelsior/excelsior.html

All links should be working, including the .pdf link, and there is a new link to an updated wallpaper blueprint.

[tinker]

Thanks for all the hard work you have been putting into the site - I think it is great.

I have been working on a project similar to yours and I found out some interesting information that explains why the warp nacelles were in line with the impulse engines and I posted these notes in my thread if you ever came across them, but here they are for your convenience:

A note for Brad: During my research on these ships I think I have found the answer to why the latter Excelsior model has the Bussard collectors in line with the impulse engines (See the Nebula Class on Memory Alpha): According to the article, impulse engines do not have an "exhaust" in much the same manner as warp engines. They have inertial power and don't require expelling anything to move the ship - so there is no exhaust "blowing" into the Bussard collectors! Additional note:I also discovered that the impulse engines that are in line with the warp nacelles are not used to propel the ship - but the saucer section when it separates from the secondary hull in an emergency - so you can safely return the nacelles to their original location.


Read more: ststcsolda.proboards.com/thread/620/tng-federation-ship-recognition-manual#ixzz3hci7HrAf

[Gorn]

uhhhhh - if Impulse engines use fusion then they would HAVE to have an exhaust wouldn't they? Anyway, since Krauss proved that you can't possibly make the ship work under regular rocket methods, I suppose Impulse wouldn't be regular rocketry. That's reserved for thrusters, right?

[tinker]

Aug 1, 2015 20:24:35 GMT -7 Gorn said:

uhhhhh - if Impulse engines use fusion then they would HAVE to have an exhaust wouldn't they? Anyway, since Krauss proved that you can't possibly make the ship work under regular rocket methods, I suppose Impulse wouldn't be regular rocketry. That's reserved for thrusters, right?

I don't know. I read things that say one thing and then read other things that say something else - it is the bane of a fictional universe. Some sources indicate that the warp core powers both the warp nacelles and the impulse engines - that doesn't seem right either.

However, we do see a change from blue impulse engines to red - maybe that is when the change to inertial power (coming from the warp core) was made?

[zaarin7]

Brad just some feedback. I checked the Excerlsior page and all links work.

[hachiman]

"Under impulse power, she burns fuel like any other vessel. We call it plasma, whatever the Klingon designation, is purely ionized gas."

"Well what about all that equipment we have for cataloging gaseous anomalies? Well the thing's gotta have a tailpipe!"

Spock and Uhura, Star Trek VI.


Clearly impulse engines use fuel and have an exhaust system.

[Gorn]

Yaaaa, Trek, sadly has no concern whatsoever for continuity; even BEFORE JJ went and totally screwed up everything royally.

I think Impulse always did seem to be a "gas"-based system.

[zaarin7]

And I always got the impression going back to TOS and Star Fleet Battles (which is older than STSTCS) that the impulse system was an advanced fusion system basically.

[tinker]

The engines may have been fusion at one time - but something did change since impulse engines went from being blue to red. The Ambassador-class even changed from blue to red during its production run. Some models of the Nebula have no external impulse engines at all. Given this information, it is possible to conclude that impulse technology did make the leap from conventional propulsion to inertial propulsion when the "exhaust" went from blue to red.

[Meteo Ascension]

And Don Miller assumed the more Powerful 6Xe and up ships of the 26th Century and later no longer had Separate Impulse Engines, instead using multimodal PhaseWarp, Hyperwarp, Timewarp, Realitywarp, that could double for sublight.